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September 06, 2008

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(d) All of the above! ;-)

Chuck says:
"What irks me is that we often see NetApp either try to pretend..."

Such an arrogant, pompous whine displays a dangerous sense of entitlement EMC seems to have regarding their customers' business.

What ever happened to honest competition and earning the business? There can be honour in losing business in a sportsmanlike way, but Chuck shows how EMC refuses to play fair.

Val, as I stated before, the reason I didn't post your last comment is that it crossed the line.

Nice editing job on the repost, by the way -- I guess you had second thoughts.

Since you don't see what the problem is, let me help you a bit -- it's not what you're saying, it's how you're saying it.

I don't believe I have to put up with personal insults, derogatory personal comments and the like.

I've never launched a personal attack on anyone, ever -- period.

The trick with this blog stuff, Val, is to learn how to disagree without being disagreeable.

When you learn some of the more subtle rules of the road, I'd be more than pleased to welcome your comments back again.

Until then, you'll have to use your own blog as a therapy session, not mine.

-- Chuck

Chuck,

Revisionist history coupled with censorship does not give you any moral high ground from which to preach what you yourself do not even practice.

When you begin to show some respect for NetApp, I will happily return in kind for EMC.

I may (or may not) have thrown in a little jab at EMC as part of my controversial comment the other day, but because of your need to suppress the free flow of information (true to form for EMC btw) our readers will never know.

Keep that finger in the dike pal. Maybe "this time it's different", and that strategy will actually work in keeping customers from finding out just how deeply "emulated" NetApp technology has penetrated your enterprise SANdbox.

Chuck,

Has patronization penetrated the EMC corp culture so deeply that you've become entirely desensitized to it?

You accuse an industry peer executive of behaving like a child on your blog, then come over here to lecture him on civility using the exact same tone?

Tell me again how that is being "agreeable"? Is this part of your "rules of the road"?

I think your picture needs to be added here now:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypocrisy

Chuck,

I am not in either camp but I have to agree with StorageJack above.

Why don't you just post Val's comments and make the public judge for itself whether a line is crossed? Isn't that what public debate is all about? There's a word for this kind of "regime" you know, and I think neither you nor EMC wants to be related to it, right?

If you can't stand the heat, don't start blogging I'd offer.

You know I was quite sincere when I suggested once that Chuck should consider a career in politics:

http://blogs.netapp.com/shadeofblue/2008/09/chucks-celestia.html

Since most of us know that everything Chuck writes is merely a parroting of EMC talking points sent down by his superiors, all this flip-flopping is really more indicative of EMC as a company than Chuck personally and the panic that NetApp seems to be causing within.

--Lee

Val, I'm not going to dive into this debate, as I think this discussion has played out. I just wanted to say that I find it saddening that you posted the earlier comment from 'AshleeFan' - a roundabout accusation of misogyny leveled against an entire company.

You may throw up your hands and say 'Hey, I'll post any/every comment I get!' but I'd expect you to exercise better judgment here. Tell me, were I to dig up details regarding isolated legal allegations involving NetApp employees and go on to imply that NetApp as a company condones this alleged activity, would you post my comment?

I hope you wouldn't. But I hope you'll post this one.

Chuck,

I would have to agree others here. NOT allowing Val's post is like a small boy getting frustrated when he is losing a baseball game and in turn grabs his bat and ball and stomps off saying, "since you won't let me win, I am taking my ball, my bat and going home!" NICE!!!

I think I am an independent opinion on storage OEM’s. I would also point out that I firmly believe “passion” for ones company and its technology is not a crime nor offensive and should be open for “good businessmen” to debate. HOWEVER, censorship (such as this) is typically reserved for, and an accepted practice by, communist regimes who want their “own people” in the dark. Oh, and possibly the mafia...

So, I hope you grow up a bit and decide to come back out and play ball with the big boys in the neighborhood. (Or in other words, allow Val's post!)

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