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July 29, 2008

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It's fairly well documented that benchmarks perform differently in different workload situations. Most people either stress test devices for comparison under their own workloads, or use the generic workload agnostic SPC-2 (for IO/s) or SPC-1 (for MB/s).

SPC is contentious because many vendors build application level prefetching algorithms into their boxes, and SPC is specifically designed to prevent that from working. It is useful for a basic bake off though, and as far as I remember, HP posts benchmarks.

Where are your benchmarks? If you want to dispute this claim, post them at www.storageperformance.org.

What about:
http://www.storageperformance.org/results/benchmark_results_spc1/#netapp_spc1

Btw- where are HP's submissions for EVA...?
Wait a minute, here they are:
http://www.storageperformance.org/results/benchmark_results_spc1/#hp_spc1

But wait again; they're submitted in *2002* and *2003*, any more recent submissions? Nope. Now I wonder why.......


Hi OSSG

As Geert points out, the SPC benchmarks for NetApp are on the SPC website, along with the (very old) EVA benchmarks for systems HP no longer sell.

Lack of current SPC benchmarks is one issue, but that's not my complaint here.

It's the "top speed" figure HP quote. No-one can *ever* achieve that number "on the road" with an EVA4400.

1. It's not stated that the number represents IOPS from cache in the spec sheet.

2. It's not recommended by HP, but that isn't clear either until you get well through the performance document.

3. And when you get there, it says "Because disk overload is a possible consequence of using cache performance numbers for capacity planning..." Possible?!?!? So probable as to be a racing certainty is more accurate.

Weasely words and numbers.

Update: Hey, would you believe it, the website http://h18006.www1.hp.com/products/storageworks/eva4400/specs.html now has NO asterisk on the Maximum IOPS to point you at the performance document. This is it, plain and baldly stated;

-- Maximum IOPS > 140,000 IO/sec

No asterisk, no caveats. That's even *more* misleading than before.

Hi OSSG,

A couple of quick points:

1. SPC-1 is actually the one known for IOps whereas SPC-2 is the one geared for MB/sec.

2. NetApp has not only actively published our popular mid-range FAS3000 series extensively, but we've worked with the SPC-1 committee to push the boundaries of the benchmark to deliver even more valuable real-world info for customers to consider. Namely, we've added Thin Provisioning, Snapshots and extended-length (>3hrs) testing to our results.

More details here:
http://blogs.netapp.com/exposed/2008/01/a-brief-history.html

Btw, thinking of it - I may not be a math expert, but to my knowledge > means "more than". So how much "more" IOPs "than" 140,000 could a EVA4400 theoratically do? Like, 1 million? 2 million?

Besides all the valid points Val and Alex make, this figure just means, well eh... nothing, really.

This video reveals the dark truth behind how HP achieved those benchmark results:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fT8EqIQwgf8&session=P18yYD6nTwhIT3eJxSwu9jJTUMZOyo2hWqlexox7pB-C2DeaDXVyhfyljxKMvcDR4ZxkvBzRR1LALTj2yYfgBldko1m6_XBjh94PCnXwJQxe2yfSoeJqFokrpCWa_DvvbJhb8_UWE_VFrxpc-VvPopAkAcwEAyly5hrHGjkrWY-VKIZ9mO8mQN6GzU61DdFAnBE8LnGsTu_ZsqleToLSZkvSiDvsIxUIAfocgQIbxIJk-3Cjz_yISBXcmBuFjSNFUH_wQ5DzC-cSukKgiB8esX3Fy3TL-OE_qThqe7FiGUYgb54T9_AOtRQc1pCgqKeD

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